The 483rd Bomb Group Archive

Aircraft

44-6538 Miss Prissy

817thlost with the 483rd, 22 March 1945
Type
B-17G-55-DL (Douglas)
Names
Miss Prissy
Assigned to the 483rd
28 September 1944
Loss
MACR 13242 · mission 186, 22 March 1945
Sources
Association page · American Air Museum · b17flyingfortress.de
Flags. the two republications of the Master Log line differ; AAM text kept, b17flyingfortress.de text in log_variant

Loss and incident records

History

Dates and events from Dave Osborne's B-17 Master Log, as published by b17flyingfortress.de; wording condensed to the facts.

Photographs and loss sheets

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Statements

Casualty questionnaire, page 10 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-11 -
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of orew member:
Rank:
Treing
rile 23842
Serial number:
as 18
Position: Crew (Bomber) (Eletter):
Did he bail out? NO
There?
If not. why not?
Last contact ar conversation juet prior to or at tims of loss of plane:
Was he injured?
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information:
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Total number of missions of above crew member: 20
Datos and destinations if possible:
6-3861,AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 10 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 11 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-11
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
h.
Pile 13218
Rank:
Serial number:
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Did he bail out? NO
Where?
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
Was he injured?
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information:
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
-
Total number of missions of above crew member: over 20
Dates and Gestinations if possible:
6-3861,4 AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 11 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Eyewitness statement, page 12 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-12
CASUALTY QEPSTIONNAIRE
1. Your nare Roy M. Pickard
Rank 515gT Serial No. 34920234
2.
Organizat
i
on
485rd
Gp
Commander
Botton
Rank
col.
Sqn
CO
Kilpatrickronk
Maj.
(full, name)
(fuly name)
3. What year 1945
month March day 22 did you go down?
4. What was the mission, Oil REtiNEry target, Rhuland Germank Starget
ime, 1:15
,altitude, 30,000
route scheduled,
,route flown
5.
Where were you when you left formation? 15minutes eff target
6. Did you bail out? Yes
7. Did other members of crew bail out? Yes.
8. Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Pleace
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge" All ENlisted MCN
EXCEPT the Firgineer bailed out to gether The Officers
and ENgiNeet stayed with the plane t Landed it some
where IN Russia or RUSSION held Tertilary
9. Where did your strike the ground?
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires)
11. Where were they in aircraft?
12. What was their condition?
13. When, where, and in what condition did you lest see any members not already deis-
cribed above?
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowlodge. Indicate source of infermation.
(Any additional information 9-1
may be written on the back)
over
6-3862,AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 12 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 14 · 22 March 1945
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
BATES, Ralph F.
Pile 33242
Pank:
16
Serial number:
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Did he bail out?
No knowledge.
Where?
No knowledge.
If not, why not?
No knowledge.
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
No knowledge
Was he injured?
No knowledge
Where was he when last seen?
No knowledge
Any hearsay information: When I returned to Atlantic City, In the Ambassador
Hotel I met a S/Sgt. Andreola 817 B Sq. who was flying in number three
position. His ship crashed in Fussia. He said, that Lt. Bates, Kallock
Fischer, Jacobs, and T/Sgt. Brewer were with 1im in Fussia.
Source: S/Sgt. Andreola 817th Bomb Sq. 483 Pomb Group
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Facts
Total number of missions of above crew member:
"o knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible:
No knowledge
6-3861,AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 14 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 15 · 22 March 1945
is
AFPPA-àl
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
Demald de
File 33242
Rank:
and ut
Serial number:
0-3099536
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Did he bail out?
No knowledge
Where?
No knowledge
If not, why not?
No knowlegge
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
No knowledge
Was he injured?
No knowlodge
Where was he when last seen?
No knowledge
Any hearsay information:
When I returned to Atlantic City. In the Ombassador
Hotel 1 mot a s/sgt. Andreola 817 B. Sq. who was flying in number three
position. "is ship crashri in ussia. "B said, that It. bates. nollock
Fischer, Jacobs, and I/S8t. Brewer were with bim in Bussia.
Source: s/Sgt. Andreola 817th Fomb Sq. 483 bomb Group
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Facts
Total number of missions of above crew member:
No knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible:
No knowledge
6-3861, AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 15 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 16 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-àl
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of Jrew member:
FISCHER, Donald L.
File 13242
Rank:
2nd Lt
Serial number:
0-2001400
Position: Crew (Bomber) Navigator
Did he bail out?
No knowledge
Where?
No knowledge
If not, why not?
No knowledge
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
No knowledge
Was he injured?
No knowledge
Where was he when last seen?
No knowledge
Any hearsay information: When Ireturned to Atlantin City In the Ambassador
Hotel I met a S?Sgt. Andreola 817 B. Sq. whowas flying in umber three
position. His ship crashed in Russia. He said, that Lt. Bates, Kallock
Fischer, Jacobs, a nd Frogt. Brewer were with him in Fussia,
Source:
875gt. Indreola 817th Bomb Sq. 483 Bomb Group
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Facts
Total number of missions of above crew member:
No knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible:
No knowledge
(
6-3861, AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 16 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 17 · 22 March 1945
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
Jacoss, Irving
File 13242
Rank:
and is
Serial number:
0-2001492
Position: Crew (Bomber)
Did he bail out?
No knowledge
Where?
"o knowledge
If not, why not?
No knowledge
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of lose of plane:
No knowledge
Was he injured?
No knowledge
There was he when last seen?
No knowledge
Any hearsay information: When I retumed to Atlantic witz. in the Ambassador
Hotol I met a -1sgt. Andrecls 817 b. Sq. who was flying in number
position. "is ship crashed in ussia. "e said, that Lt. Bates,
Fischer, vacobs, and I/sgt. Brewer were with him in Ruasi a.
Source
: S/Sgt. andreola 817th Fomb 483 Ecmb Group
Any explanation of nis fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Facts
Total number of missions of above crew member:
No knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible:
No knowlenge
6-3861, AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 17 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 18 · 22 March 1945
.
ARPPA-
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
E.
File 23212
Rank:
T/agh
Serial number:
Position: Crew (Bomber) Flight Reginess
Did he bail out?
No knowledge
Where?
No knowiedze
If not, why not?
No knowledge
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
No knowledge
Was he injured?
No knowledge
Where was he when last seen?
No knowledge
Any hearsay information: When I returned to Atlantic "1ty. In the Amoosnador
hotel I 2062 a s/sgt. Alroola 817 Sq. who was flying in number three
position. His ship crashed in ussia. He said, that it. Bates, Kallock,
Fischer, and */Sgt. Brewer were with him in Russia.
Source: S/Sgt. "ndreola 817th *omb Sq. 483 "omb Group
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on apposition:
Facts
Total number of missions of above crew member:
No knowledge
Dates and destinations if possible:
No kuowledge
6-3861, AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 18 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Eyewitness statement, page 19: James C. Brennan, vr · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-I2
CASUALTY CUESTIONNAIRE
1.
Your name James C. Brennan, vr.
Rank S/Sgt. Serial No. 11070553
1817 Sq.
BARTON
WILLIAM
2. Organization 483 B Gp Commander Col
Rank Col. Sqn COKILPATRI do Rank Mejor
(full name)
(full name)
3. What year 1945
month March
day 22 did you go down?
Oil Refineries
4. What was the mission,
,
target Bhulsnd, Germany
target
time, 12:29 p.m. , altitude, 26,000 Ft.
route scheduled,
, route flown
5.
Where were you when you left formation' ? Right Walst Position
6. Did you bail out?
Yes
7. Did other membera of crew bail out? Yes, ( Radio Operator, Left Waist,
Ball Turret unner, Tail unner )
8. Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge".
See Reverse Side
9. Where did your aircraft strike the ground? No knowledge
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and indiyidual questionnaires)
No Knowledge
11. Where were they in aircraft?
No knowledge
12. What was their condition?
No knowledge
13. Whon, where, and in what condition did you last see any members not already des-
cribed abovo? Last saw other member of crew just before take-off.
They were in good condition.
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information.
(Any additional information may be written on the back.)
6-3862,AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 19 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Eyewitness statement, page 20 · 22 March 1945
Ship was attacked by fighter enemy aircraft a few minutes
after bombs away. They came from 6:00 'clock high. They started
our main gas tank (right) on fire. The cuncussion threw the left
waist gunner down and` knocked him off inner-phone and oxygen. Some
one in the front of the ship yelled bail-out. The left waist gun-
ner, after a slight shove went out first, I then proceeded after
him. The tail gunner, ball turret gunner, left waist gunner were
in Stalag Luft #1 and came back to the States with me. I never
did see the Radio Operator but other crew members did.
( I did not recognize the voice of the person who gave the
command to bail out as I was flying as a replacement.)
(Ei ther we, 817th Bomb Squadron was off course, or the other
three Squadrons were off course. I could see the rest of the
group way out at three o'clock.)

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 20 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Eyewitness statement, page 5 · 22 March 1945
HEADQUARTESS
FOUR EIGHIT THIRD BOVEARDMENT GROUP (H)
office of the Operations Officer
APO 520
6 April 1945.
STATEMENT
On 26 March 1945 this headquarters received TWX stating that
Lt. R.F. BATES, LT. D.A. KALLOCK, LT. D.L. FISCHER, IT. I. JACOBS and
T/Sgt. BREWER had forced-landed near Warsaw and that the rest of the crew
had bailed out 15 miles northwest of Ruhland. The first five listed were
then at Poltava awaiting ATC transport back to Italy 15AF, Hill
?
T-3261). No further information has been received, nor has Lt. BATFS or
any member of his crew returned to duty at this base.
Louis Surth
LOUIS T. SEITH,
Major, Air Corps,
Operations Officer.
N°- 1983
under

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 5 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 7 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-11
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
BATES, Ralph
Pile 13241
Rank:
les LA
Serial number:
0-829762
Position: Crew (Bomber) Plios
Did he bail out? No
Where?
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane : Bilot
gave US our choice, Bailout two WaNted to
Was he injured?
NO
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information:
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Total number of missions of above crew member:
24
Dates and destinations if possible:
6-3661, AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 7 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Eyewitness statement, page 8 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-11
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY OURSTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member: KALLOCE, de
The 23832
Rank:
2ed IS
Serial number:
0-2052536
Position: Crow (Bomber)
Did he bail out? NO
Where?
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss ef plane:
Was he injured?
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information:
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Total number of missione of above crew member: Approx. 20.
Dates and destinations if possil ie:
6-3861, AF

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 8 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 9 · 22 March 1945
AFPPA-11
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of
crew member: Donnid L.
Plie 33242
Rank:
2nd to
Serial number:
Position: Crew (Bomber) Waviguter
Did he ball out? NO
Where?
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of losa of plane:
Was he injured?
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information:
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Total number of missions of above crew member:
20
Dates and destinations if possible:
6-3861,A7

National Archives, MACR 13242, page 9 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

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