Serviceman
Cletus J Kramer
817thmissing in action
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- Army serial number
- 37536841
- Rank
- Cpl (17 October 1944), Sgt (22 November 1944), SGT (13 December 1944)
- Hometown
- JEFFERSON CITY MO; Jefferson City, MO
- Also written
- Cletus Kramer
- In the book
- Heroes of the 483rd, p. 8
- Sources
- 483bg-record, assoc-roster, heroes-book, macr-crew, morning-report · service record at 483bg.org
Flags. serial conflict: 37536841 vs 37536817 (OCR)
Crews
Awards
| Date | Award | General order | Rank then |
|---|
| 13 December 1944 | Air Medal | 4983 | SGT |
From the general orders indexed by the Army Air Corps Library and Museum.
Aboard a lost aircraft
Morning reports
2 entries, first 17 October 1944, last 25 November 1944; grades seen: Cpl. The clerk's sentence is quoted as the machine read it from microfilm: "fr dy to DS" is from duty to detached service, "sk in hosp" sick in hospital, "asgd & jd" assigned and joined.
- 1944-10-17 817th: MOS Duty same. Above 3 Os 6 EM asgd jd fr Fifth Wg (US) 16 Oct 44
- 1944-11-25 817th: 611 Sgt
National Archives pages: roll 572487240 p. 474, roll 576472397 p. 3614
Statements, mentions and histories
Casualty questionnaire, page 11: KRAMER, Cletus J · 22 November 1944
AFPPA-1)
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Filememhar 9950
Name of crew member:
KRAMER, Cletus J.
Rank:
Sgt
Serial number:
37536817
Position: Crew (Bomber) Asst Eagineer
Did he bail out? YES
Where?
15 MINUTES SOUTHEAST OF MUNICH
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane: NONE
Was he injured? UNKNOWN
Where was he when last seen? UNKNOWN
Any hearsay information:
RECEIVED LETTER FROM PILOT
SAY HE WAS SAFE
Source : ROBERT BARTUSCH (PILOT)
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
No
Total number of missions of above crew member: 5
Dates and destinations if possible: UNKNOWN
6-3861, AF
National Archives, MACR 9950, page 11 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.
Casualty questionnaire, page 15: KRAMER, Cletus J · 22 November 1944
AFPPA-1
File number 9950
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
KRAMER, Cletus J.
Rank:
Sgt
Serial number:
264 37536841
Position: Crow (Bomber) A3at Engineer
Did he bail ous?
May
Where?
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior plane:
to on at time of loss of
Was he injured?
Where was he when last seen?
Any hearsay information
Source:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
Total number of missions of above crew member:
Dates and destinations if possible:
6-3861, AF
National Archives, MACR 9950, page 15 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.
Casualty questionnaire, page 18: KRAMER, Cletus J · 22 November 1944
AFFPA-1
File number 9950
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Name of crew member:
KRAMER, Cletus J.
Rank:
Sgt
Serial number:
896 37536841
Position: Crow (Bomber) : Aast Engineer
Did he bail out? yes
Where?
Munich HReH,
If not, why not?
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane:
NO knowledge
Was
he injured? SpRziNed head
Where was he when last seen? Taken To same Hail camp.
Any hearsay information:
Sourca:
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition: He was
TakeN PRISONER OF WaR ON The evening
OF NOV 22Nd 1945 X was Taker To
if PRiSONeR of WIR Cam p.
Total number of missions of above crew member:
6
Dates and destinations if possible:
No KNO wwedge e
6-3861, AF
National Archives, MACR 9950, page 18 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.
Casualty questionnaire, page 26: KRAMER, Cletus J · 22 November 1944
INDIVIDUAL CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
Filenumber 9950
Name of crew member:
KRAMER, Cletus J.
Rank:
Sgt
Seriel number:
37536841
Position: Crew (Bomber) Asst Engineer
Did he bail out? Ye
Where' ? To the bestet my Know ledge- In the area South East
of
Salzburg Germany c and Novalin westef Klagenfort, Austria
If not, why not?
-
Last contact or conversation just prior to or at time of loss of plane No order
was given too bail out bot ship was auto f
cont No ( at time Asst. Engineor bailedlout
Was he injured? Do not know.
Where was he when lant seen? About 14,000 ft. in avea mentioned
a bove - He was floating down and his chute w a & open
Any hearsay information:
He wa is supposed to have landed not
100 badly injured and was captured by
German soldiers later intervogated and
sent to a prison can't
liberation for Germany a nd nis return TO u.s.A.
Source: From letters written by himself since his
Any explanation of his fate based in part or wholly on supposition:
He has been returned to the U.S.A. was
discharged in Sept 1945- is now
residing at his legal Address in Jefferson
City, Missouri.
Total number of missions of above crew member: Five (5)
Dates and destinations if possible Missions wive flown between
October 14, 1944 an November 22,1944-70
Southern Germany and Austria - Final mission
was Munich Germany
6-3861, AF
National Archives, MACR 9950, page 26 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.
- 17 more statements from MACR 9950 are on the loss record.
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