Aircraft

44-8014 Big Deal

815thlost with the 483rd, 4 October 1944

Type: B-17G-45-VE (Lockheed/Vega)
Names: Big Deal
Assigned to the 483rd: 5 August 1944
Loss: MACR 8974 · mission 99, 4 October 1944
Sources: Association page · American Air Museum · b17flyingfortress.de

Loss and incident records

MACR 8974 · 4 October 1944 · mission 99, 4 October 1944 · flak

History

12 May 1944Delivered Dallas
26 June 1944Langley
21 July 1944Grenier
5 August 1944Assigned 815BS/483BG PFF Sterparone
Missing in Action Munich 14/10/44 with Harry McCann, Price, Frankowicz, Fuller, Kopec, Kilgore, Irish, Malecha, Kacamarek, Hamiel (10 evaded capture & return 11/10/44)
flak, crashed Otocac
Missing Air Crew Report 8974. BIG DEAL

Dates and events from Dave Osborne's B-17 Master Log, as published by b17flyingfortress.de; wording condensed to the facts.

Photographs and loss sheets

B-17 44-8014 B-17 G 45 VE 'Big Deal' · view at 15thaf.org
B-17 44-8014 B-17 G 45 VE 'Big Deal' · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org
Loss sheet or report scan for B-17 44-8014, mission 99 Munich, Germany · 4 October 1944 · view at 15thaf.org

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Statements

Eyewitness statement, page 4 · 4 October 1944

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:
At 1411 hours, 4 October 1944 at 4510-1528, I aaw ship 614 feather
its #3 engine (#1 and #2 already feathered) and saw 6 parachutes open.
At 1415 at 4459-1531, I saw 4 more chutes open. His altitude was 9,000
ft. and heading 180°.
Engines #1 and #2 were feathered in the target area and we
stayed with Mas, leaving the Group. Our course was kept over land
as he was planning on bailing out if he could not reach Vis Island
(this was learned by radio contact with 014).
Roy G. Miller Jr.
ROY G. MILLER JR.
lst Lt, Air Corps
ASN 0-708529
Navigator, Ship #42-32043
A CERTIFIED TRUE COPY
SHERMAN D STANFIELD an
Capt, Air Corps
Operations Officer

National Archives, MACR 8974, page 4 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

Casualty questionnaire, page 8: Price, Raymond L · 4 October 1944

8974
AFPPA-12
CASUALTY QUESTIONNAIRE
1. Your name Price, Raymond L. Rank Capt Serial No. 0-760908
2.
Organization 15th AAF Gp Commander Bartonzank Col. Sqn CO Stanfieldrank Majer
(full name)
(full name)
3.
What year
1944
month Oct
day
4
did you go down?
4. What was the mission, Munich, Ger, target, marshaling yards ,target
time,
-
altitude, 28,500
route scheduled,
-
, ,route flown
-
5.
Where were you when you left formation? over the target
6. Did you bail out?
yes
7. Did other members of crew bail out?
yes
8. Tell all you know about when, where, how each person in your aircraft for whom no
individual questionnaire is attached bailed out. A crew list is attached. Please
give facts. If you don't know, say: "No Knowledge". All crew members
bailed out in the vicialy of Slunj, yogoslavia. All
members landed safely
9. Where did your aircraft strike the ground?
no knowledge
10. What members of your crew were in the aircraft when it struck the ground? (Should
cross check with 8 above and individual questionnaires)
none
11. Where were they in aircraft?
-
12. What was their condition?
-
13. When, where, and in what condition did you last see any members nut already des-
cribed
above? All m € ber 3 returned safely to
Allied territory
14. Please give any similar information on personnel of any other crew of which you
have knowledge. Indicate source of information.
none
(Any additional information may be written on the back)
6-3862, AF

National Archives, MACR 8974, page 8 · Machine-read from microfilm, uncorrected.

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